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Posts in which we talk about reading habits and preferences

I’m nearly done revising Lord Langdon’s Kiss (my first book, published in 2000). I’ve tweaked backstory and motivations and cut about 13,000 words. The cutting has been very easy; fifteen years have softened any attachment I had to that old prose. I’d say I had no ego involved at this point, but I’d be lying, because I have been mulling the thought of buying up all the copies still available in used bookstores and burning them!

I wish someone had told me to tighten this book, but I suspect the acquiring editor’s workload did not allow much time to work on books (like traditional Regencies) that did not receive large advances. Once a manuscript was deemed good enough to acquire in the first place, it seemed to be a case of “candidate passes.”

And since that phrase bubbled up from memories of The Court Jester with Danny Kaye, here’s the relevant clip. Just in case anyone could use a laugh.

Only one of my traditionally published books received any editorial feedback, and that was from a young editor who was probably more energetic and conscientious than most. (I would have enjoyed working with her again, but Signet ended the Regency line soon after that book.) My increasingly experienced group of critique partners has done more to improve my work than any editor.

So I laugh when I hear arguments that traditional publishing is always better than self publishing, because of the editing. I personally see pros and cons in both models. (Courtney Milan wrote an excellent post on this topic: Traditional versus Self Publishing—Official Death Match 2014.) However, my experience (which is not unique) is that working with a large New York city based publisher is still no guarantee of scrupulous editing, unless perhaps a very high advance is involved.

Even their proofreading is suspect. For instance, I recently read a traditionally published novella that had 3 grammatical and/or typographical errors. In a full length book, that would have been 10 or more errors, way over my personal threshold for professional work, which is 1 or 2. This is the first time I’ve seen anything so error-dense from traditional publishing, so I don’t know if the quality of proofreading has declined in general. I’ve heard readers complain about it, though.

There’s a huge variation in quality in self-published work as well. An indie book I read recently had the same endless internal dialogue issues as Lord Langdon’s Kiss. There was a lot I liked about the book, so I wish someone had advised the author to tighten the pacing.

A lot of indie authors do use various forms of quality control. I’ve been using a combination of beta readers and critique partners, several of whom are traditionally published authors. It’s a challenge to process feedback from as many as 5-8 different people, but I find it worthwhile. Other authors I know have hired anything from developmental editors to proofreaders, free lancers who have often worked (or still work) for large publishers. So a lot of indie books are as polished as any others, and sometimes more creative because they tackle themes and settings and other elements that may not have been thought marketable.

I’ve also heard there are self published books that are selling well despite poor editing, grammar, typographical errors, etc…. I haven’t read any myself, but it is said that a lot of readers don’t care about those things, as long as the story grabs them. That may be true. I’ve definitely observed the same about historical accuracy.

What do you think? Has the quality of editing changed over the years? How much does it matter to you as a reader?

Elena
www.elenagreene.com

Today I thought I’d talk about book reviews. There are two schools of thought about reviews:

  1. They don’t matter.
  2. They do matter.

Similarly, writers are advised to:

  1. Comb through your reviews for quotable quotes.
  2. Never, ever read your reviews. That way lies madness.

So today I want to share some of my finest review hours (of different books, if you’re wondering. I don’t think I’ve yet written the book that could elicit all of the following responses):

This book was very vulgar! Pornography is not my thing. The sex acts were very explicit and embarrassing. I thought I Was reading something historical. This was historical to the point of Sodom and Gomorrah.

The “relations” include scenes involving a corpse which is at best in bad taste and at worst borders on the necrophiliac.

… the worst character — ever. I hope she gets crotch rot. And dies.

…a thowback [sic] the vintage sleaze pulps of the 1960’s of which I am an avid collector.

Moral Note: Above, and heck, and “b” word in reference to breeding.

I’ve long ago come to the conclusion that if someone hates a book they’re going to more readily write a review than someone who loved it, or even just sorta liked it. For one thing, it’s easier. It provides catharsis for wasted money or dashed hopes. I’ve just read two wonderful books about the Borgias by Kate Quinn, and all I can do is flap my mouth and wave my hands in inarticulate admiration, wish I could do what she does, and then feel guilty about not going further with it. (Sorry, Kate.)

I will add that there’s only one thing I find truly offensive in a review (rather than feeling mystified), and that’s a reviewer who spells Austen Austin. She’s not a town in Texas. Austen. Write 100 times….

Do reviews influence you when you buy books? Do you review the books you read? And if you’re a writer, what’s the worst or most bizarre review you’ve ever received?

Lord Langdon's KissLord Langdon’s Kiss was the first book I wrote. Although some readers have asked about it, I haven’t reissued it yet because I thought it needed work. I’m in the thick of it now, about 5 chapters in, and I rather wish someone had told me back then to cut 10,000 words. Yup. 10,000.

Lord Langdon’s Kiss was originally published at about 85,000 words. My other traditional Regencies, the “Three Disgraces” series, are all around 75,000. And Lord Langdon’s Kiss has no more plot than any of them. What it does have is introspection. Tons and tons of introspection. What was I thinking?

I was thinking that it was so fun to get inside my characters’ heads.

And it is. Why people do things is still fascinating to me, and that applies to my characters as much as it does to real people. What I learned from the next story I wrote, a novella, The Wedding Wager, was that I didn’t need to use introspection to reveal everything. Writing a 20,000 word story taught me to tighten, tighten, and tighten some more.

I have a confession to make, though. I still love introspection, but I use it in a more disciplined way now. If a character can express him or herself through dialogue, action or body language, I use that instead. But there are times when a character has good reasons not to want to reveal his or her thoughts or feelings to others, and then I think a little internal dialogue is just fine.

Looking back over some older traditional Regencies, I see that I wasn’t the only one to write paragraphs and paragraphs of introspection. Perhaps one reason for it is the mores of the Regency, when it would have been improper for couples to express their feelings to each other before having an “understanding”. But I also think it’s a more old-fashioned way of writing.

What do you think of introspection? How much is too much? Can there be too little?

Elena
www.elenagreene.com

What Not To Bare by Megan FramptonFirst off, I would be remiss if I did not mention that What Not to Bare is discounted, for a limited time, to .99.

And also (this feels as though it’s going to be a very newsy post, so bear with me–ha! see what I did there–while I share) I’ve had a workshop accepted to this year’s RWA National Conference: Angst and Affability: Using Jane Eyre and Pride and Prejudice to Craft New Adult and Contemporary Romance. I’ll be doing the workshop for the first time at the New England Conference, and I’m excited and nervous about presenting it.

I love going to conferences because it’s a time to connect in person with fellow writers and romance readers, people who know just what I’m talking about when I mention black moment, or DNF, or TBR pile, or any of those types of things.

Also–this is SO NEWSY, my goodness!–I received my RITA books for judging. For people who don’t know, the RITA is an award given to the best books from a year, rather like the Oscars for romance novels. And it’s judged by fellow writers. I love judging because I am exposed to authors and genres I might not normally find on my own. Of course I have the secret hope that someone out there is discovering ME and finding something she wouldn’t have known about. The nominations come out around the end of March. So cross your respective fingers for all of us who’ve entered!

Today, and most of this weekend, in fact, is set aside for writing, since I’m embarking on a new project, and I’m excited about it, but I can’t share details for a bit. So I’m off to read, and write, and flog my book sale, and all that. What about you? What are you doing this weekend?

Megan

 

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I hope everyone is having a good 2014 so far–or at least has gotten used to writing “2014” on checks and forms. It still looks weird to me, even though the day job requires me to date documents all the time.

I’m embarrassed to admit I almost forgot today was my Risky blogging day, even though it’s on my calendar, and I noticed it on Monday and spent a few minutes trying to think up a good topic. By the time I thought of it again, it was too late to come up with something deep and thoughtful about my current manuscript and my research for it, or anything along those lines. So I thought, “Hey! The year is still new. I’ll talk about the books I’m looking forward to reading in 2014!”

Sweet Disorder Cover

My critique partner, Rose Lerner, has a new book coming out in March called Sweet Disorder. It’s a tale of love and politics in an English village, and it’s smart, beautifully written, and very sexy.

My 9-year-old daughter and I are equally enamored with a series of snarky (yet highly educational!) graphic novels on American history called Nathan Hale’s Hazardous Tales. To give you a sense of the tone of the series, I’ll just mention that the most recent entry was called Donner Dinner Party. This time he’s tackling World War I:

NHHT

Treaties, Trenches, Mud, and Blood is the latest entry to my preorder list at Amazon.

I’m also eager for Lindsey Davis’s second Flavia Albia book and Diana Gabaldon’s Written in My Own Heart’s Blood. For the rest, I’m sure I’ll make many delightful discoveries as the year goes on, though I figure I’ll be waiting till at least 2015 for Naomi Novik’s latest, and God only knows how long for the next Song of Ice and Fire book from George R.R. Martin…

What about you? What books are you awaiting eagerly? Have you already preordered any of them?

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